{"id":1914,"date":"2023-02-05T19:34:23","date_gmt":"2023-02-05T19:34:23","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/thebuddhistcentre.com\/stories\/50voices\/?post_type=project&#038;p=1914"},"modified":"2023-02-05T19:34:26","modified_gmt":"2023-02-05T19:34:26","slug":"khemajoti-ordination","status":"publish","type":"project","link":"https:\/\/thebuddhistcentre.com\/stories\/50voices\/project\/khemajoti-ordination\/","title":{"rendered":"Khemajoti: Ordination"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>[et_pb_section fb_built=&#8221;1&#8243; disabled_on=&#8221;on||&#8221; _builder_version=&#8221;4.16&#8243; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221; theme_builder_area=&#8221;post_content&#8221;][et_pb_row column_structure=&#8221;1_2,1_2&#8243; _builder_version=&#8221;4.16&#8243; background_size=&#8221;initial&#8221; background_position=&#8221;top_left&#8221; background_repeat=&#8221;repeat&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221; theme_builder_area=&#8221;post_content&#8221;][et_pb_column type=&#8221;1_2&#8243; _builder_version=&#8221;4.16&#8243; 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text-decoration: none;\" rel=\"noopener\">The Buddhist Centre<\/a> \u00b7 <a href=\"https:\/\/soundcloud.com\/thebuddhistcentre\/04-khemajoti-ordination\" title=\"04 Khemajoti - Ordination\" target=\"_blank\" style=\"color: #cccccc; text-decoration: none;\" rel=\"noopener\">04 Khemajoti &#8211; Ordination<\/a><\/div>\n<p>[\/et_pb_code][\/et_pb_column][\/et_pb_row][et_pb_row _builder_version=&#8221;4.16&#8243; background_size=&#8221;initial&#8221; background_position=&#8221;top_left&#8221; background_repeat=&#8221;repeat&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221; theme_builder_area=&#8221;post_content&#8221;][et_pb_column type=&#8221;4_4&#8243; _builder_version=&#8221;4.16&#8243; custom_padding=&#8221;|||&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221; custom_padding__hover=&#8221;|||&#8221; theme_builder_area=&#8221;post_content&#8221;][et_pb_divider color=&#8221;#f4a732&#8243; admin_label=&#8221;Divider (Desktop)&#8221; _builder_version=&#8221;4.16&#8243; height=&#8221;0px&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221; 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I was finishing primary school where I\u2019d been a bright, happy child (top of the class) and moving to secondary school where I met children who were more of a match for me. I was moving into the awkwardness of\u00a0adolescence.<\/p>\n<\/li>\n<li>In 1978 I was finishing 3 years at a small teacher training college in Bishops Stortford, Hertfordshire. It was a time of big education cuts and it was hard to get a primary school job outside of the big cities. It was the year I went to Canada with my then boyfriend to visit a couple we\u2019d met whilst hostelling in Scotland. Due to the lack of teaching jobs, I ended up living back with my parents, working in a warehouse, ending the relationship with the boyfriend and feeling miserable.\n<\/li>\n<li>In 1988 I was living and working in London as an English as a Foreign Language (<span class=\"caps\">EFL<\/span>) teacher after 7 years living abroad. I found being back in the\u00a0<span class=\"caps\">UK<\/span>\u00a0strange and hard to adjust to. I\u2019d returned to the\u00a0<span class=\"caps\">UK<\/span>\u00a0looking for a Buddhist group to teach me to meditate and during the Easter holidays I went to a lunchtime class at the Croydon Centre. I knew I\u2019d found what I was looking for (in spite of the strange atmosphere) and went regularly to classes and got to know Manjunatha. In the autumn I went to Tarragona in Spain for an\u00a0<span class=\"caps\">EFL<\/span>\u00a0job. Whilst there I kept up yoga and meditation, read a few Dharma books I had, wrote long letters full of Dharma questions to Manjunatha and at the end of the year went on a group retreat at Osel Ling instead of the holiday I\u2019d planned with a friend. Being at Osel Ling (and reading Subhuti\u2019s \u2018Buddhist Vision\u2019 from their library) convinced me that I wanted to practice with the\u00a0<span class=\"caps\">FWBO<\/span>. I also learnt that Moksananda was in Valencia trying to start a Centre and I contacted him early the following\u00a0year.\n<\/li>\n<li>In 1998 I was in Croydon working in the wholefood shop, the women\u2019s Team-Based Right-Livelihood Business (<span class=\"caps\">TBRL<\/span>). I had been ordained the previous year in June at Tiratanaloka. I was living in a community with 3 of the women from the shop (2 of whom are now Satyalila and Ksantika). In the spring I went (with no money!) on a mad, impulsive 3 week trip to Mexico City to visit the sangha. There were no Dharmacharinis there (possibly I was the first to have visited??) and only 2 Dharmacharis \u2013 Upekshamati and Samamati. I was generously hosted by 2 Mitras (now Jnanadakini and now ex\u00a0<span class=\"caps\">OM<\/span>\u00a0Kovindu). We went on a weekend retreat where I gave (with a lot of help from Kovindu) a short talk in Spanish.\u00a0 From Mexico I flew to San Francisco to visit Viveka who I\u2019d been ordained with. There we went as retreatants on a weekend retreat with Kamalashila who was\u00a0visiting.\n<\/li>\n<li>On the plane home I had a strong wish to use my Spanish more, to be with more experienced Dharmacharinis and to have more time with my preceptor Sanghadevi. When I got home I received a card from Dhammadinna asking if I could go to the first Tuscany retreat that autumn as translator for a Spanish speaking Mitra who spoke no English. At that time there were only 3 Spanish speaking Dharmacharinis in the world (!), myself being one. I had no idea if I was up to the task but said yes and so Saddhakara joined the Order. I had a very intense 6 week retreat and my wishes from the plane were\u00a0fulfilled!\n<\/li>\n<li>In 2008 I was still living in Bristol and working in the Windhorse:Evolution shop at the beginning of the year. I then had 2 months of working as an Evolution shop visitor in London, Brighton, Norwich and Cambridge. During and after this time I was homeless for 5 or 6 months, staying with friends, my Mum, house sitting and going on retreats. A wide variety of retreats \u2013 Pure Awareness at Vajrakuta, study at Dharmapala College (Madhyamaloka), Breathworks at Taraloka and 2 retreats at Vajrasana \u2013 an Evolution retreat and a families\u2019 retreat. I had the idea that I would like to move to Bath but realized this was impractical and in the autumn rented a v cheap (!) room with friends with the idea of not working for a while and just seeing what unfolded. I focused quite a lot on meditation and also helped Kulamitra run a Dharma course in Bath one eve a\u00a0week.\n<\/li>\n<li>In 2018 I sold the family house, attended the inauguration of Suryagupta as chair of the\u00a0<span class=\"caps\">LBC<\/span>, and was unexpectedly invited (at a few weeks\u2019 notice) to help lead the ordination course at Akashavana. In the autumn Bhante died \u2013 I was fortunate to attend a day of the vigil, the funeral and the first retreat at Adhisthana afterwards. 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_builder_version=&#8221;4.19.4&#8243; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221; theme_builder_area=&#8221;post_content&#8221;]<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>In 1968 I was living in my birthplace, Swindon\u00a0<span class=\"caps\">UK<\/span>, with my parents and younger brother in the house we\u2019d moved into in 1960. I was finishing primary school where I\u2019d been a bright, happy child (top of the class) and moving to secondary school where I met children who were more of a match for me. I was moving into the awkwardness of\u00a0adolescence.<\/p>\n<\/li>\n<li>In 1978 I was finishing 3 years at a small teacher training college in Bishops Stortford, Hertfordshire. It was a time of big education cuts and it was hard to get a primary school job outside of the big cities. It was the year I went to Canada with my then boyfriend to visit a couple we\u2019d met whilst hostelling in Scotland. Due to the lack of teaching jobs, I ended up living back with my parents, working in a warehouse, ending the relationship with the boyfriend and feeling miserable.\n<\/li>\n<li>In 1988 I was living and working in London as an English as a Foreign Language (<span class=\"caps\">EFL<\/span>) teacher after 7 years living abroad. I found being back in the\u00a0<span class=\"caps\">UK<\/span>\u00a0strange and hard to adjust to. I\u2019d returned to the\u00a0<span class=\"caps\">UK<\/span>\u00a0looking for a Buddhist group to teach me to meditate and during the Easter holidays I went to a lunchtime class at the Croydon Centre. I knew I\u2019d found what I was looking for (in spite of the strange atmosphere) and went regularly to classes and got to know Manjunatha. In the autumn I went to Tarragona in Spain for an\u00a0<span class=\"caps\">EFL<\/span>\u00a0job. Whilst there I kept up yoga and meditation, read a few Dharma books I had, wrote long letters full of Dharma questions to Manjunatha and at the end of the year went on a group retreat at Osel Ling instead of the holiday I\u2019d planned with a friend. Being at Osel Ling (and reading Subhuti\u2019s \u2018Buddhist Vision\u2019 from their library) convinced me that I wanted to practice with the\u00a0<span class=\"caps\">FWBO<\/span>. I also learnt that Moksananda was in Valencia trying to start a Centre and I contacted him early the following\u00a0year.\n<\/li>\n<li>In 1998 I was in Croydon working in the wholefood shop, the women\u2019s Team-Based Right-Livelihood Business (<span class=\"caps\">TBRL<\/span>). I had been ordained the previous year in June at Tiratanaloka. I was living in a community with 3 of the women from the shop (2 of whom are now Satyalila and Ksantika). In the spring I went (with no money!) on a mad, impulsive 3 week trip to Mexico City to visit the sangha. There were no Dharmacharinis there (possibly I was the first to have visited??) and only 2 Dharmacharis \u2013 Upekshamati and Samamati. I was generously hosted by 2 Mitras (now Jnanadakini and now ex\u00a0<span class=\"caps\">OM<\/span>\u00a0Kovindu). We went on a weekend retreat where I gave (with a lot of help from Kovindu) a short talk in Spanish.\u00a0 From Mexico I flew to San Francisco to visit Viveka who I\u2019d been ordained with. There we went as retreatants on a weekend retreat with Kamalashila who was\u00a0visiting.\n<\/li>\n<li>On the plane home I had a strong wish to use my Spanish more, to be with more experienced Dharmacharinis and to have more time with my preceptor Sanghadevi. When I got home I received a card from Dhammadinna asking if I could go to the first Tuscany retreat that autumn as translator for a Spanish speaking Mitra who spoke no English. At that time there were only 3 Spanish speaking Dharmacharinis in the world (!), myself being one. I had no idea if I was up to the task but said yes and so Saddhakara joined the Order. I had a very intense 6 week retreat and my wishes from the plane were\u00a0fulfilled!\n<\/li>\n<li>In 2008 I was still living in Bristol and working in the Windhorse:Evolution shop at the beginning of the year. I then had 2 months of working as an Evolution shop visitor in London, Brighton, Norwich and Cambridge. During and after this time I was homeless for 5 or 6 months, staying with friends, my Mum, house sitting and going on retreats. A wide variety of retreats \u2013 Pure Awareness at Vajrakuta, study at Dharmapala College (Madhyamaloka), Breathworks at Taraloka and 2 retreats at Vajrasana \u2013 an Evolution retreat and a families\u2019 retreat. I had the idea that I would like to move to Bath but realized this was impractical and in the autumn rented a v cheap (!) room with friends with the idea of not working for a while and just seeing what unfolded. 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