This talk is the last of four talks by Padmavajra on a men's Going for Refuge retreat, December 2012. Padmavajra explores some of the suttas from The Udana collection of the Pali Canon, referring throughout to Sangharakshita's seminar material. This talk is organised using the following structure : the Jatilla ascetics; how you can tell whether a man has insight; the story of Yassoja and his noisy disciples; Dabba of the Mallas; Parinibbana